Discussion in 'Politics' started by GRIM, Nov 12, 2016.
Both candidates sucked ass, i chose not to vote for the first time ever
there hasnt been a bigger gap between voters and 2 parties as it is now, not atleast in last 30-40yrs. hate is very strong, polarisation is sky high, binary ingroup vs outgroup thinkin rules supreme and all this is very troubling and it doesnt lead to anything good. humans have prospered through cooperation, not through hate and division. very difficult times for us in the usa. usa is a very young country so it is dealing with growing pains, bones stretching and settling in. but hat the exception is this youngster in development is the strongest country in the world. growing pains + world ending weapons = never a good thing
Im a libertarian Hate both dem and repub party
i dont have a label. i always look at things on per issue basis. guns, healthcare, foreign relations, infrastructure, abortion, education, science etc etc. on each i have a opinion and it is a mix between all so called labels and parties. labels are a VERY dangerous things because people operate based on purely assumption and prior knowledge of the label and what it means instead of really listening and talking to the person about te issues at hand. label-ism is a huge problem and should be avoided at all cost
People are protesting becuse of the hateful divisive things that Mr Trump said. I can not support an individual that preaches hate and does not work to bring people together. He did however win so he has to decide how he is going to lead and what type of human he is going to be. Time will tell. Our healthcare system is broke. The ACA is far from perfect but it does offer things that are good. If we repeal it there will need to be something to put in its place. Which is good don't bitch about how bad it is take the good get rid of what isn't working and make it better. The availability of good care should not be limited by what you can afford. Peace Brothers.
People are protesting because they are choosing to pretend the hateful divisive behavior is one sided. They are protesting because they have been given permission. It's no different than if suddenly there was an excuse that made it ok to rob banks. You'd have every idiot in the world jumping on the excuse and racing down to the nearest credit union.
We live in a country that allows us to express ourselves peacefully in protest of that we don't agree. I don't particularly enjoy watching the white power groups run around talking about the superior race but as long as they do it peacefully it is their right. Nobody is condoning violence or damage to property. Had it gone the other way we very well may have seen protests from Trump supporters.
I don't see blocking highways and preventing emergency vehicles from passing as a peaceful protest. Very little of what I've seen has been peaceful. Every bit of me knows that if the shoe were on the other foot libs would be screaming for Trump supporters to be arrested for their behavior.
peaceful protests should always be allowed. unpeaceful ones not. we have laws that clearly define what is and what isnt peaceful. law should be blind, this is the whoole point of it in free society. some of these protests democrats are having look like warzones. disgrace and should be punished. protest peacefully or dont protest. respect freedom. democratic party has some awesome aspects and so does the republican and 3rd parties also. thats why freedom is best when there is diversity of opinions. anybody oppressing diversity of opinions is against freedom regardless of how good their motivation seems to be. road to hell is paved with good intentions. diversity of opinion and freedom of speech has to be respected above ALL individual wishes or wants offenders of this cardinal rule are horrible and found on both sides albeit the liberal democratic side is more of an offender in the last months, which is going against the core principles of democratic party: freedom of speech, liberty for all, equality. it seems the west as all great civilisations is rotting from inside and will cave. decadent. so developed it crushed in on itself. like bodybuilding and training to get more pussy and then developing SO much muscle that no girl wants to touch you. overshooting of the target, missing the point thats why Greek philosophers are so valued as they understood this and always advocated 1 word: balance. and this balance is THE hardest thing to achieve in life
No, they did not. The Greeks were socialists who knew Democracy was the same as socialism and ALWAYS ends in mob rule (Socrates anyone?). Our form of governance in the USA is NOT a democracy FOR THIS VERY REASON. That's why we have a representative Constitutional Republic. Democracy .... PFFFFT.
yeah democracy isnt the best way but it is the best way in my opinion from all the ways we have as humans. best of the worst. if we cant directly influence how we are ruled then there is no freedom. democracy sucks but i would always choose it above the other methods which always give power to a small group. and i dont trust anyone including myself the power to rule over others.
It's over now 100%... Smile, be happy! America is BACK! Merry Christmas!
So relieved. Will America be great again? The future will tell. Merry Xmas everyone!
merry xmass we have lots of work to do to improve wellbeing of our citizens, nation as a whole needs to benefit and not just the rich. more healthcare, cheaper healthcare, transportation systems are abysmal, education is down the drain in many aspects, freedom of press, social mobility, focus on reason and facts and science and less on fairy tales, less wars, swtich to green energy, crime rates are highest in the western world etc etc. lets hope trump can make some of these things better althoughlogic dictatates that his positions on some of these things will make them even worse
Yes, but as I said, the Representative Constitutional Republic guarantees true, equal Rights for all. These Rights are inalienable, as they are bestowed by our Creator, not by any man. This way, no man can deprive you of your Rights (AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT A CRIMINAL). In a democracy it's play as you go, get a simple majority and anything can happen.Anything. That's why the FF's, in their infinite wisdom, set up a system of checks and balances, intended to make each branch wary and watchful of each other, which is a good thing. Of course, our System of Governance has been corrupted by men (IRS, FED, all alphabet agencies, Civil War, direct election of Senators - which nullified the 10th Amendment), all these things were wrought by a government bent on usurpation of power which, in fact, was never delegated to them.
Out government so corrupted its not even close.to what it was intended anymore
I totally agree. I voted for Trump however have an open mind. The liberal behavior that occurred based on results of this election is ridiculous. This is teaching our kids, a generation that is fucked up to begin with, that if they don't like something - to go throw a fit about it and smash stuff etc. I still wonder what shifts all these adult Hillary supporters that are protesting work????? I couldn't even get time off to attend a Trump rally. Hmmm cause I hold a job.
right or wrong, I loved to see this post from Hanzo. Hanzo loves to argue and he does it for the most part constructively. His posts are very educated. Great to have you back big guy....
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