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[GRIM]

Creatine and so far so good! I always did best with the otc crap for some reason!

[Wabbitt]

Creatine and so far so good! I always did best with the otc crap for some reason!

Well, creatine is supposed to stave off alzheimer's!:finger2

[GRIM]

Then u better have a triple dose!

[Augerdog42]

LMAO!

[millenium girl]

Never liked creatine (I get stomach upsets when taking it) but since you're off cycle, I think that it's the best supplement to run.

[GRIM]

It gives me bloat like a mofo, but i like the results. I get better results from creatine and stacking otc supps than anything. This time though I'm not going to stack as much, the amount I used to spend on supps was nuts!

[Wabbitt]

Then u better have a triple dose!

I knew you cared:shy:

[GRIM]

I knew you cared:shy:
You know it big wabbs!

[millenium girl]

Could you post all the other OTC supps that you're taking, GRIM? I'd love to know more about the stack.

[GRIM]

I'm not taking much at all at the moment, Creatine 'dymatize xpand with added dicreatine malate', Protein, nocturnabol, 1-carboxy, alpha drive.

Not much of a 'stack' atm.

[Juiced]

My kid made great gains in weight and his lifts on Celltech hardcore.

[GRIM]

My kid made great gains in weight and his lifts on Celltech hardcore.
He gonna be a monster?

[Wabbitt]

I'm not taking much at all at the moment, Creatine 'dymatize xpand with added dicreatine malate', Protein, nocturnabol, 1-carboxy, alpha drive.

Not much of a 'stack' atm.

Dymatize Xpand is the best preworkout I ever tried. I am going to pick up some of that new "energized" with all the extra caffeine:p

[GRIM]

It's good and it's cheap!

[Big B]

I've been taking N.O. xplode n the shit done me wonder...

[GRIM]

Did you ever try xpand? I've tried lots of formulas but I love the xpand for some reason. Great mix IMHO, good tasting, and works!

[Big B]

I'll get it on my next order n try it....

[GRIM]

You can yell at wabbs if you don't like.
Personally I like, you can use it pre and post workout if you want, I only use it pre.
Has a great mix, low cost, 50 servings per bucket 'for non energy version' and '40' I believe for the energized one.

[Big B]

what's in it? caffeine, creatine, nitric, glutamine?

[GRIM]

The standard xpand is as follows:
Xpand Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 18.5g
Servings Per Container: 50
Amount Per Serving
Total Carbohydrates 5g
Vitamin B3 20mg
Vitamin B6 9mg
Folic Acid 90mcg
Vitamin B12 37mcg
Creatien Ester Fusion 4.5g
Creatine Ethyl Ester Malate
Tricreatine Malate
Creatine Ethyl Phosphate Sodium
Creatine AKG
Arginine Fusion 3.4g
Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate (A-AKG)
Arginine Ethyl Ester
Arginine HCL
Arginine Ketoisokaproate
L-Norvaline
Betaine-Anhydrous 1g
Taurine (Micronized) 1g
Glutamine Fusion 1g
Glutamine-AKG
N-Acetyl-L-Glutamine
XPANSIPON MATRIX 4g
Glycocyamine
Glucuronolactose
L-Citrulline
MTC's (Medium Chain Triglycerides)
Cinnulin PF (Aqueous Cinnamon Extract)
Vinpocetine 99%
Vincamine 99%
Guanidinopropionic acid
Recovery Matrix 2,078mg
BCAA Complex
L-Leucine
L-Isoleusine
L-Valine
L-Tyrosine
N-Acetyl Cysteine
L-Phenylalanine
Vanadyl Sulfate
Xpand Other Ingredients
Natural and Artificial Flavors, Sucralose, Glycerol Stearate, Red #40.

Energized version:
Energized Xpand Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 1 scoop (20.5g)
Servings Per Container: 40
Calories 24
Total Carbohydrates 6g
Sugars 0g
Vitamin B3 36mg
Vitamin B6 36mg
Folic Acid 420mcg
Vitamin B12 300mcg
Creatine Ester Fusion 4.5g
Creatine Ethyl Ester Malate
Tricreatine Malate
Creatine Ester Phosphate Sodium
Creatine AKG
Arginine Fusion 3.5
Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate (A-AKG)
Arginine Ethyl Ester
Arginine HCl
Arginine KEtoisokaproate
L-Norvaline
Betaine-Anhydrous 1.5g
Taurine (Micronized) 1.5g
Glutamine Fusion 1g
Glutamine-AKG
N-Acetyl-L-Glutamine
Xpansion Matrix 3g
Glycocyamine
Glucuronolactone
L-Citrulline
MCT's (medium chain triglycerides)
Cinnulin PF (Aqueous Cinnamon Extract)
Vinpocetine 99%
Vincamine 99%
Silicon Dioxide
Energized Matrix 1600mg
L-Tyrosine
Caffeine
N-Acetyl Cysteine
L-Phenylalanine
Vanadyl Sulfate

Energized Xpand Other Ingredients:
Maltodextrin, Natural & Artificial Flavors, Sucralose

[Big B]

wow, good stuff! Thanks 4 the info

[Gator]

That sounds like a good product I might have to try it out

[Wabbitt]

It is fantastic, and you won't find vanadyl sulfate in alot of otc preworkouts. Xpand is by far the best I ever used. Pissed me off when GNC quit carrying it.

[GRIM]

GNC is a rip off anyways!

[Augerdog42]

Thanks, I'm going to try it. NO Xplode isn't working for me anymore. Vitamin shoppe carries Xpand

[Big B]

GNC is a rip off anyways!

^a big ass bump 2 that!

[GRIM]

^a big ass bump 2 that!
So much cheaper to buy online, even with shipping!

[Big B]

yeah, I get my stuff from bodybuilding.com....shipping is 6 bucks regardless how much you order

[GRIM]

I find better deals than bb.com but it's still not a bad place ;)

[Big B]

what site you use?

[GRIM]

http://tinyurl.com/yzrsfp6 (http://www.enhancegenetics.com/redirector.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.shareasale.com %2Fr.cfm%3Fb%3D82104%26u%3D130891%26m%3D11618%26ur llink%3D%26afftrack%3D) a lot of the time

[Big B]

I'll check it out, thanks

do you get the powder or pills dynamize Xpand?

[GRIM]

I buy the powder form ;)

[Big B]

good deal...ordering tomorrow

[GRIM]

http://tinyurl.com/yzrsfp6 if you order from DA use the link so EG gets $8 to help with upgrades :p

[Augerdog42]

http://tinyurl.com/yzrsfp6 if you order from DA use the link so EG gets $8 to help with upgrades :p


I definitely will use link

[Big B]

http://tinyurl.com/yzrsfp6 if you order from DA use the link so EG gets $8 to help with upgrades :p


how do I do that? I put my order in and everything to see what you're talking about but didn't see anything where I can use the link of EG...also, what's a good Xpand flavor????

[millenium girl]

Grimmy, I'm gonna give my body a complete 2 months break and I was wondering if creatine would help me keep my strength gains or is it a waste of money. Which creatine should I run and at what dosage? Thks.

[Big B]

creatine helps from losing all strength so don't see why not...