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aramik
01-24-2009, 09:42 PM
Hello,

Just wondering if any of you have used Clen before? Your opinions on it?

Just interested.

GRIM
01-24-2009, 10:01 PM
Works, but can have nasty sides.

WaRRior
01-25-2009, 12:45 AM
def works...especially on a tight diet. I always start out at real low doses, 40mcgs ED then work my way up to higher doses, never more than 120mcgs ED. I also split the doses to twice daily 40mcgs and up. So if i am at 60mcgs, I will take 30 in am, and 30 in late afternoon. This helps me with sides tremendously. I also always go 2 weeks on and at least one week off just to keep my adrenal receptors from building up a tolerance to the chemical. A good clean diet is the key...its not a miracle drug, but with the right diet you can shed a lot of fat and water weight.

DGAF
01-25-2009, 03:47 AM
My wife and I both take it when we are getting ready for the summer and toning and cutting up. It works different for everyone. I start at 40mcg and when the sides slow down I up the dose by 40mcg at a time, usually a couple of days apart. I can only use it for a week on and a week off at a time because I adapt so quickly to it I will be doing 200mcg at the end of the first week. My wife on the other hand starts at 20mcg and ups her dose when side go down which is 3-4 days apart and she only ups it by 20mcg each time. She does it 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off because she dont build a tolerance like I do so she can do it longer with a lower dose. All in all it works real good with a very strict diet and exercise and cardio program. I have dropped 30lbs and got real ripped in 5 weeks with its help and my wife has dropped around 15lbs or so in the same amount if time with only its help and she got real lean and tone. You just have to be careful with it and take it cautiously and watch the sides and increase your dose accordingly.




DGAF

Gator
01-25-2009, 01:12 PM
I agree it works. But I don't care for the sides it give me plus I build up a high tolerance in a matter of a few days. Like the others said start off slow I made the mistake of taking too much at first that was a bad experience :eek:

Wabbitt
01-25-2009, 01:18 PM
I usually work up to about 240 mcg. It's fantastic for cutting, especially when closing out a cycle. Definitely taper up and start slow to assess your tolerance. If you don't, you may feel like you are going to die:finger2 I think that is why some guys end up not liking it.

GRIM
01-25-2009, 01:31 PM
My weight loss stopped, gone back up several pounds. I do however think it's some lean muscle gain as the mirror appears I am getting more cut.

Might try some Clen again Monday, stopping the creatine which will help me drop some water weight.

Wabbitt
01-25-2009, 01:33 PM
Take the clen right before your cardio...that will take the water off;)

WaRRior
01-26-2009, 01:23 PM
Take the clen right before your cardio...that will take the water off;)

yep...and makes my heart beat go up 10bpm too. Sweatin' like a pig in line at the slaughter house.

tilltheend
01-26-2009, 01:50 PM
helios work best I think

GRIM
01-26-2009, 03:02 PM
BTW I am taking way more than the listed amounts above :o

Wabbitt
01-26-2009, 10:03 PM
BTW I am taking way more than the listed amounts above :o

How much?

GRIM
01-26-2009, 10:06 PM
:D

I believe the stuff i have is 200 per 1ml, taking about 1/3-1/2 dropper in the morning.

Then taking 1/4 dropper 2-3 more time a day.

WaRRior
01-27-2009, 09:47 AM
:D

I believe the stuff i have is 200 per 1ml, taking about 1/3-1/2 dropper in the morning.

Then taking 1/4 dropper 2-3 more time a day.

a lot of it depends on where you got it..hg or research, and even different pows srcs have different stuff. HG is obviously the best, none of you would be taking over 200mcgs of hg....I've had one research company's that was 200mcgs/ml and I could take the whole dropper in the morning....then tried another one, that was 100mcgs/ml and I couldn't do more than half a dropper at once. My suggestion is stick with which "brand" you know so dosing doesn't get messed up.

GRIM
01-27-2009, 09:51 AM
Definitely, I see differences from HG to research companies big time.

My weight currently has stabalized, went back up to about 265 but I can tell I am getting leaner. Jeans are fitting better if not too loose and my lat veins are a popping like a mofo! Top abs are definitely showing.

If only I hadn't wrecked my skin so bad, so much loose skin makes all this work for nothing at times! :mad:

aramik
01-27-2009, 10:40 AM
What's a dropper?

noob alert XD

GRIM
01-27-2009, 10:52 AM
usually 1ml worth

aramik
01-27-2009, 08:22 PM
I see, doesn't it kind of come in gel form?

Still waiting for mine to arrive.

GRIM
01-27-2009, 08:59 PM
Usually tab or liquid

WaRRior
01-28-2009, 12:29 PM
I see, doesn't it kind of come in gel form?

Still waiting for mine to arrive.


Never heard or saw that before

GRIM
01-29-2009, 04:38 PM
I'm going high today, about 600mcgs+ so far

Gator
01-29-2009, 09:38 PM
Damn bro might need to take a week off with a dose of benadryl every night

GRIM
01-29-2009, 09:58 PM
:D
The cut is definitely starting to show

aramik
02-03-2009, 06:15 PM
Was taking 40,80 didn't feel anything.. uped it to a 100.

Im shaking like a kunt.

millenium girl
02-06-2009, 04:59 AM
I ran Ventipulmin years ago and I ended up sweating profusely, shaking so badly that I couldn't hold a pen in my hand ... I won't do that again ;)

BIG-K
02-06-2009, 08:02 PM
Be carefull with that shit grim, your dose is way high bro. Bump Gator and the benadryl, your receptors are shut down...lol

aramik
02-09-2009, 04:54 PM
How are you suppose to tell if you've built a tolerance to it?

Wabbitt
02-09-2009, 09:48 PM
Why are you using clen anyhow? What are your goals? Only asking because in another thread you asked about weight gainers.

Gator
02-09-2009, 10:56 PM
How are you suppose to tell if you've built a tolerance to it?

When you have to do large amounts of it. I got to the point I was using such a high dose it was putting a strain on my heart but I was no longer getting the effect. You want to do that magical dose that has you sweating and shaking just a bit not to much tho. If its underdosed you will know because the norm won't do much. I had great results I just really hated the side effect and the fact I would build up a high tolerance very fast.

jerseydiesel
02-10-2009, 12:27 AM
Like everyone said, Clen should be tapered up and down typically over 2 weeks BUT I think to many people don't respect how strong Clen is and the potential damage to one's heart, keep the doses modest. Personally I was uncomfortable at even 120mcg but my girl was able to take that dose, everyone reacts differently but chances are if you have side effects then the dosage is to high!

Wabbitt
02-10-2009, 08:55 AM
I never run it more than 2 weeks, then I take at least 2 off!

DGAF
02-10-2009, 11:42 AM
I never run it more than 2 weeks, then I take at least 2 off!

I cant go 2 weeks on it. I become so adapted to it that I a doing 200mcg by the end of the first week. So for me it is 1 week on 1 week off.


DGAF

Gator
02-10-2009, 06:35 PM
I do the EOD with benadryl on the nights I use it. I still build up a high tolerance on it fast. Grim was that stuff you were using before It started with a A. Was it any good

GRIM
02-12-2009, 10:31 PM
I do the EOD with benadryl on the nights I use it. I still build up a high tolerance on it fast. Grim was that stuff you were using before It started with a A. Was it any good
Albuteral 'spell' yeah it was decent, no real sides.

2powerful1
02-12-2009, 11:21 PM
I run it straight through precontest from about 12 weeks out through the day of the show without any side other than the mild cramping, and i obtain superb conditioning :D

Wabbitt
02-13-2009, 08:34 AM
I run it straight through precontest from about 12 weeks out through the day of the show without any side other than the mild cramping, and i obtain superb conditioning :D

12 weeks of clen?

Hope we get to see some pics:cool:

2powerful1
02-13-2009, 05:25 PM
All the way through bro ,Honestly most of the Top NPC and IFBB guys that i personally know use this method,

Wabbitt
02-13-2009, 09:41 PM
How do you keep the receptors fresh? I build up a tolerance so fast...usually end up running like 240 mcg.

millenium girl
02-16-2009, 02:59 PM
Albuterol is safer

Juiced
02-16-2009, 03:17 PM
How do you keep the receptors fresh? I build up a tolerance so fast...usually end up running like 240 mcg.


I would run 2 days on and 2 days off.