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GRIM
10-26-2008, 12:41 PM
Any input on this substance?

How to use, is it worth it, etc.

Been looking into peptides lately and would love input from those at EG.

Shasta
10-26-2008, 02:55 PM
It is for tanning purposes I believe. Thats all I can telly ou because i have never used it nor researched it.

GRIM
10-26-2008, 03:26 PM
Tanning and libido from what I've read

Wabbitt
10-27-2008, 08:24 AM
You workin on your tan grimmy? :p

Stuff does what it says if it is legit! Don't be alone when you use it or you will give yourself carpal tunnel! It's like viagra to the tenth power! Three trips to the tanning bed and I had a full on tan-only negative was it really makes you freckle bad! Even had a freckle on my Johnson-they do fade though!

GRIM
10-27-2008, 08:51 AM
You workin on your tan grimmy? :p

Stuff does what it says if it is legit! Don't be alone when you use it or you will give yourself carpal tunnel! It's like viagra to the tenth power! Three trips to the tanning bed and I had a full on tan-only negative was it really makes you freckle bad! Even had a freckle on my Johnson-they do fade though!
Just just picking some stuff up and almost picked some of this up as well.
Chose to hold off for the time being though.

agentsmith
10-27-2008, 08:51 AM
Come to So Cal, we got santa anna winds going on. clear and 90 degrees. No problem getting a tan:D

GRIM
10-27-2008, 08:54 AM
In WI all we got going on is cold!

agentsmith
10-27-2008, 08:58 AM
In WI all we got going on is cold!I wouldn't mind alittle cold to tell you the truth, I have had enough of the heat this summer. Looking foward to winter actually

GRIM
10-27-2008, 03:28 PM
I wouldn't mind alittle cold to tell you the truth, I have had enough of the heat this summer. Looking foward to winter actually
That's what I thought until it was here :o

d-red
10-28-2008, 12:35 AM
A Guide to Melanotan (CU1647)

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A Guide to Melanotan (CU1647)


The goal here is to hit the ground running with what we currently know in regards to this amazing new peptide. While it would not be realistic to cover each and every nuance of the drug, I believe we can provide you with a solid enough background to help create your cycle. My sources come from experience, melanotan.org, ncbi, Clinuvel, and other various trusted user logs.

Melanotan has made a significant impact on many lives and will continue to do so in the upcoming years. As a three year veteran user of melanotan peptides, I will give the best perspective I can.

Goals for melanotan use should be measurable, attainable, realistic, and have a timeframe in mind. Now there is no magic pill or formula here, so obviously listening to one’s body is of the utmost importance. Beyond reading this write up, there is a certain amount of preliminary research a prospective melanotan user must do. First, find out what skin type you are. Second, decide whether or not you intend to use melanotan as a sunless tanner or expose yourself to UV radiation (sun/solarium). Third, have confidence in your goals and see them through!!!

So what is Melanotan?

The body's naturally occurring hormone alpha-melanocyte stimulating hormone (α-MSH) causes melanogenesis, a process by which the skin's tanning cells (melanocytes) produce the skin's tanning pigment (melanin). Melanotan is a synthetic version of melanocyte stimulating hormone. The peptides amino acid sequence is: Ac-Ser-Tyr-Ser-Nle-Glu-His-D-Phe-Arg-Trp-Gly-Lys-Pro-Val-NH2 or [Nle4, D-Phe7]-alpha-MSH. Currently Melanotan is being tested and developed under the name CUV1647 by the Australian company Clinuvel Pharmaceuticals, for indications such as Polymorphous Light Eruption (PMLE) and Actinic Keratosis (AK).

Studies show that Melanotan is 10 to 1000 times more potent than our natural a-MSH. In fact, Clinuvel has confirmed the increased effects of CUV1647. Today the public has more interest in Melanotan. Melanotan II has taken a step back (imo).

What does this mean?

Melanotan stimulates the natural production of melanin, the pigmentation of the skin which protects it from UV radiation. This is why it is of particular interest for those of us with fair skin. For rosacea sufferers, the product could potentially thicken facial skin, protect it from sunburn and hide the redness. I do not suffer from this, so can’t really comment…though I have read some success stories in user logs.

People use Melanotan for a variety of reasons. Primary reason people are experimenting with this peptide is to get tan (cosmetic reasons). People who burn in the sun and never tan can experience a real tan for the first time! There are also users who have history or concerns of skin cancer. These users use Melanotan to not only protect their skin, but to live a normal lifestyle. Some are even able to achieve and/or maintain a sunless tan.

To be particularly clear regarding Melanotan (due to previous incorrect news reports) it should be known that it does not cause sexual arousal or aphrodisiac effects. These aspects are only found in Melanotan II and Bremelanotide. Users who administer subcutaneously may suffer from slight nausea and flushing similar to that of Melanotan II; however, it is not reported to be as severe or last as long.

Another difference in Melanotan (opposed to Melanotan II) is that the linear peptide does not cross the blood brain barrier (BBB). Melanotan will not affect the MCR3 or MCR4 receptors in such a way Melanotan II would. Therefore it should not impact your eyes, appetite or blood pressure (positively or negatively). Furthermore it is noted that users do not report joint pain, headaches or fatigue from the original Melanotan. These are big selling points.

Melanotan users must patient. Melanotan II users see results sooner, and at a lower dose. Some seasoned users actually use both by adding MT-II in the beginning to jumpstart their cycles.

The Melanotan “Cycle”

The loading phase is the first step in your Melanotan cycle. See how your body reacts to a low dose out of the gate. Take .5mg for your first day. Recommended injection time would be after dinner, on a full stomach.

Allow a couple weeks before seeing UV exposure as a rule of thumb. Sunburn is the enemy here, and building up the melanin will give you a leg up in this arena. Some begin by dosing low and hitting the sun bed right away…and this is perfectly fine as long as you are in tune with your body.

Example- Skin type II, 180lb male
Day 1-2: .5mg each night
Day 3-6: 1mg when convenient
Day 7-10: 2mg when convenient
Day 11 on forward: begin dosing ~6mg/week

Day 7: 10min sun bed session. Cover face, use lotion, etc
Day 9: 10min sun bed session. Allow face some rays and obviously continue to use lotion liberally.
Day 11: 15min sun bed session
From this point on it is all about what fits your lifestyle and common sense….

What Skin Type Am I?



Dosing According to Skin Type

Fitzpatrick Skin Type I: 1mg-2mg/day. 100mg total may be necessary to achieve desired color. UV exposure after at least 20mg in system
Fitzpatrick Skin Type II: .75mg-1.5mg/day. 60mg should be sufficient to get color. UV exposure after 10-20mg
Fitzpatrick Skin Type III: .5mg-1mg/day. A sunless tan may be realistic here
Fitzpatrick Skin Type IV and beyond: Do not use Melanotan.

Understand that the half life of Melanotan is very brief. The melanin precursors and activated melanocytes last for months. So missing a day, taking a few days off…all of these factors really are not of critical importance. The focus should be making sure you are protected when exposing yourself to UV radiation in order to get a tan. Again, we want to avoid sunburn. It also is noteworthy to understand that after UV exposure, a tan generally does not set in until 48 hours later. Don’t let your tan sneak up on you!

Reconstituting

Swab the stopper of both your M-I vial and the vial of the dilutent (bacteriostatic water) with an alcohol swab.

Take a syringe and draw up your bact water. The amount isn't critical, other than making sure you know exactly how much you have used. The best rule of thumb is choose an amount that will make measuring the final product easy.

Example- 2ml(cc) per 20mg vial of M-I would mean each 10 marks on a U100 insulin syringe would equal 1mg of Melanotan (M-I)

Example- 1ml(cc) per 10mg vial of M-I would mean each 10 marks on a U100 insulin syringe would equal 1mg of Melanotan (M-I)

Avoid shooting the dilutent directly on the lyophilized powder. The powder should almost instantly dissolve. Gently swirl until the liquid is clear if powder did not dissolve upon contact.

Store your unused M-I in the refrigerator. Once reconstituted, the Melanotan should be good for 4-6 weeks in the refrigerator.

Measuring

After you have successfully reconstituted your Melanotan, now you need to know how to measure the desired amount out for injection. You will want to use a U100 insulin syringe to draw out your M-I.

Since you know the amount of mg's in your M-I vial, and you also know how much water you have diluted it with, we just divide this out as follows:

You will need to understand:

1ml = 1cc = 100 IU's

So we take our number of mg's of Melanotan and we divide that into the amount of dilutent we used.

Example- We used 2cc(ml) of water. We have a 20mg vial of M-I.
From our formula above we know that 1cc = 100 IU's, so we have 200 IU's of water.
We now divide the 200 IU's (the amount of our water) by 20mg (the amount of our M-I)

200 IU / 20mg = 10

This 10 will perfectly correspond with the markings on a U100 insulin syringe. In our example every 10 mark on our syringe will equal 1mg of M-I.

Melanotan is meant to be a subcutaneous injection. It can however be shot IM, but is not recommended.

Be Aware

Melanotan is still undergoing clinical trials and is not an approved drug in the US or Australia. People use the drug on the pretenses and understanding that it is for research purposes only.

Those who develop (using the word develop loosely) moles or freckles typically do so on their first cycle. It is rare people develop more on later cycles. The reality is the freckles were probably present before, but were light enough that they had gone unnoticed. If you take the drug in order to change your skin color…you can almost expect it to happen. However those who stick it out are generally happy in the end. Bottom line is you are producing more melanin and as the rest of your body gets dark, the initial freckles do not matter!

Hopefully this information will get better and better as more and more Melanotan II users make the switch to the original Melanotan.

Best of luck with your trials!!!

bighunanballs
10-28-2008, 11:02 AM
heard reports where it turns your penis very dark brown/black, lol

GRIM
10-28-2008, 11:16 AM
heard reports where it turns your penis very dark brown/black, lol
Some girls might like that! :eek:

tilltheend
12-24-2008, 03:10 AM
noticed increased libido, darkening of hair, facial hair coming in thicker, skin complexion got noticable darker within 3 weeks without even tanning,felt a good pump with it too. This was IR's MTII. Not bad shit from what I hear.used 3MG's a week for 8 weeks,used 5MG a week for 4 weeks (the first 4 weeks) . Total 12 weeks.

GRIM
01-14-2009, 01:48 PM
Got mine today, tried it already, definitely turned red and felt like i was getting a burn!

Only started with .5 to start.

Wabbitt
01-14-2009, 09:44 PM
Get ready for the morning wood that lasts til 5:p

GRIM
01-21-2009, 08:05 PM
Liking this stuff so far!

GRIM
01-27-2009, 10:53 AM
Stuff is definitely working! Went to the gym last night and 2 guys asked me if I was tanning! :D

Just bought 2 more vials worth to have some extra on hand ;)

Wabbitt
01-27-2009, 10:55 AM
Stuff is definitely working! Went to the gym last night and 2 guys asked me if I was tanning! :D

Just bought 2 more vials worth to have some extra on hand ;)

So are you tanning? One vial and 2 or 3 trips to the tanning bed and I looked like another race:cool:

GRIM
01-27-2009, 11:02 AM
2 x in the past 2 -3 weeks ;)

billy
01-28-2009, 06:58 PM
I used .3mg day I think and tanned in a tanning bed every day and didn't make it past 10 days before I had to stop. I looked Arabic. LOL I'm normally pale skinned. I did notice a few dark freckles pop up, mostly on my shaved head. The sparatic(sp?) boners were the worst tho. It does not matter where you are that little fella will pop up. My reddish brown beard turned very dark brown/black with no hint of red. It's been a year since I used it and my beard is just returning to the normal color.

beck26
01-29-2009, 12:50 PM
i hear your susposed to cover your face up when taning. you don't want it to be to bad.

billy
01-29-2009, 01:57 PM
i hear your susposed to cover your face up when taning. you don't want it to be to bad.

Well that is a rule in general when using tanning beds and next time around I will certainly follow it.

beck26
01-29-2009, 04:59 PM
ya but even more of a rule when using mt2. haha.

GRIM
01-29-2009, 05:00 PM
Definitely seeing some extra freckles, and scars popping through much darker.

beck26
01-29-2009, 05:03 PM
i have about 60mg coming in the mail soon. can't wait to start my mt2 woohoo.

GRIM
01-29-2009, 05:04 PM
I just got 2 more today, 20 mg all together i believe.

beck26
01-29-2009, 05:06 PM
heck ya bro. i'm gong to be a black man haha.

GRIM
01-29-2009, 05:08 PM
How much you pay per 10?

beck26
01-29-2009, 05:12 PM
well i got a 50mg kit for 215 w/reconstitute

GRIM
01-29-2009, 05:13 PM
cool ;)

beck26
01-29-2009, 05:15 PM
seems about right. i know some peptid companies are a lot more.

GRIM
01-29-2009, 05:15 PM
I got mine for cheaper, but not a peptide company :o

It does work though.

beck26
01-29-2009, 05:19 PM
i'll have to go through you next time haha.

GRIM
01-29-2009, 07:28 PM
i'll have to go through you next time haha.
I can get you the link if you want ;)

beck26
01-30-2009, 12:52 PM
hook it up playa.

GRIM
01-30-2009, 12:54 PM
hope i didn't lose the bookmark, having to change hd's in my notebook!

beck26
01-30-2009, 12:56 PM
hope u didn't either big guy. lol.

billy
01-30-2009, 03:05 PM
go to melanotan.org. from there you can get to a forum much like the ones we frequent (such as this) where they have suppliers listed that have melanotanII for crazy cheap. Just make sure you use a supplier that has good feedback.

I can't remember cuz it was so long ago but I think this is who I used. My memory is foggy thos so def still go check the other site for suppliers.
Melanotan II - Buy Melanotan II, IGF-1 LR3, Tanning Applications Purepeptides (http://www.purepeptides.com/product_info.php?products_id=68)

millenium girl
03-14-2009, 04:13 PM
I need a tan but the sides (nausea and horniness) keep me from buying Melanotan II.

GRIM
03-14-2009, 05:40 PM
I never got any nausea from it.

BIG-K
03-14-2009, 06:10 PM
Took my first dose today, I got my 10mg bottles for 35 dollars.

GRIM
03-14-2009, 06:52 PM
Place I got mine from is $27 for 10 ;)

millenium girl
03-15-2009, 02:47 PM
Place I got mine from is $27 for 10 ;)
TanResearch is a good supplier when you're looking for melanotan II.

BIG-K
03-15-2009, 05:21 PM
$27 Hmmm...Figures but I had a little nausea with the shot not bad. Took my second dose and no nausea. :)

millenium girl
03-15-2009, 05:34 PM
$27 Hmmm...Figures but I had a little nausea with the shot not bad. Took my second dose and no nausea. :)
I need someone to give me my shots :o

Wabbitt
03-16-2009, 09:18 AM
I need someone to give me my shots :o

For melanotan? You can do it girl...it's sub q with a slin pin-very simple:cool:

Just watch out for those massive woodies:nuts::omg

jg0524
03-16-2009, 01:20 PM
I would also like to throw out there that metachems.com is a great place to go for MTII... I got realllly tan off of it, and he's a great guy.

BIG-K
03-16-2009, 04:46 PM
I need someone to give me my shots :o

I wish I was over there so I could give you a shot... :)

For melanotan? You can do it girl...it's sub q with a slin pin-very simple:cool:

Just watch out for those massive woodies:nuts::omgBump...You cant feel those little needles.

millenium girl
03-16-2009, 05:21 PM
For melanotan? You can do it girl...it's sub q with a slin pin-very simple:cool:

Just watch out for those massive woodies:nuts::omg

I have used slin pins before (for GH) but not sure that the vials are go through the customs ...