Who you voting for?

[GRIM]

Me personally, I am not voting for either McCain or Obama. I think both are terrible.

I plan on writing in RP. I know he wont win, but it's a matter of principles...

I'm sick of taking the 'lesser of two evils' and being left with a guy/woman I can not stand being my best choice!

[Juiced]

McCain , Palin.

[Shasta]

Here it comes and i may get shot in the foot...
Obama

[bighunanballs]

mccain... obama is afukn joke

[Buck Wild]

Here it comes and i may get shot in the foot...
Obama

:eek::eek::finger2:finger2:nuts::puke:

[Juiced]

mccain... obama is afukn joke



Gotta Quote ,bump ,and whatever else I can do to get this into your head Shasta!!!!If we can debate ,Tell me why?

[GRIM]

Both of them are jokes!

[MWM]

I agree with ya on this one Grim

[GRIM]

I agree with ya on this one Grim

See I always knew you were smart! :D

[Buck Wild]

See I always knew you were smart! :D

Now dont go and get the redneck head all puffed up. Besides grim its not nice to lie to people :rolleyes: :D

[MWM]

Now dont go and get the redneck head all puffed up. Besides grim its not nice to lie to people :rolleyes: :D


HEY !!! i resemble that remark

[Buck Wild]

HEY !!! i resemble that remark

Yeah i know so do I

[Shasta]

im tryin to look at which one will help out my financial situation, and when mccain wants to keep bushes policies i kinda got turned off to him. Im all about ron paul but he didnt have a cahnce because people are to ignorant to see the truth HAH

[Buck Wild]

im tryin to look at which one will help out my financial situation, and when mccain wants to keep bushes policies i kinda got turned off to him. Im all about ron paul but he didnt have a cahnce because people are to ignorant to see the truth HAH

I like Ron myself very much. But its either gonna be Mccain or Obama. Ron Paul is going to be this terms Ross Peru but you may be a little young to remember him not sure of your age but he was a good wasted vote back when he ran.

[Shasta]

yeah nope dont remember, im pretty young compared to some (most) of you :p

[Gator]

im tryin to look at which one will help out my financial situation, and when mccain wants to keep bushes policies i kinda got turned off to him. Im all about ron paul but he didnt have a cahnce because people are to ignorant to see the truth HAH

I agree bro I really can't afford a republican to stay in the office they are all about the business side and keeping the rich, rich I need someone in there to take care of me the blue collar worker the F*cken back bone of America. The rich get tax right offs and stiuff like that and the poor live of of welfare. All of that is from freaking 25% they take out of my hard earned pay check not to mention I also get taxed for everything else. Something really does need to change I get pretty big raises matter of fact Im making alot more than I was making a few years ago and it getting tougher just to stay afloat these days. I think a Democrat in office would be great I don't like Obama but there's nobody else.

[Juiced]

Both of them are jokes!


Why you talkin bout shasta like that,grim?

[Shasta]

HAH!.. I got nothing

[GRIM]

HAH!.. I got nothing

Is that what your GF said! :eek:

[Juiced]

Im thinking you have been watchin him through the peeps hole!!! Watcha think Shasta?

[Shasta]

Im tell in ya man, first hes in denal about me at the gym and now he can quote what my girlie say....

[Buck Wild]

I agree bro I really can't afford a republican to stay in the office they are all about the business side and keeping the rich, rich I need someone in there to take care of me the blue collar worker the F*cken back bone of America. The rich get tax right offs and stiuff like that and the poor live of of welfare. All of that is from freaking 25% they take out of my hard earned pay check not to mention I also get taxed for everything else. Something really does need to change I get pretty big raises matter of fact Im making alot more than I was making a few years ago and it getting tougher just to stay afloat these days. I think a Democrat in office would be great I don't like Obama but there's nobody else.

The republicans not not only for the rich bro. They are also for business owners such as myself. I am by farrrrrrrrrrrr rich. I dont make any money to be honest with yall. But the taxes i do and dont pay are because of the republicans. I will not stand in line with my hand out like all the poor people. If i want something i go work for it and woker harder to get things i want but dont need. Dems love poor people man most have there hands out and dont want to go work for there money.

[Shasta]

I agree bro I really can't afford a republican to stay in the office they are all about the business side and keeping the rich, rich I need someone in there to take care of me the blue collar worker the F*cken back bone of America. The rich get tax right offs and stiuff like that and the poor live of of welfare. All of that is from freaking 25% they take out of my hard earned pay check not to mention I also get taxed for everything else. Something really does need to change I get pretty big raises matter of fact Im making alot more than I was making a few years ago and it getting tougher just to stay afloat these days. I think a Democrat in office would be great I don't like Obama but there's nobody else.
well said gator. Atleast you get pretty good raises. mine was 2% (about 20 cents) thye cut our raises this year and with inflation its tuff.:mad:

[Juiced]

What exactly have the Dems done for the poor?

[GRIM]

What exactly have the Dems done for the poor?
What good have the 'so called' small government republicans done?

Both sides blow ass chunks.

[Buck Wild]

What exactly have the Dems done for the poor?

For one bro they extended the time frame for unemployment i believe that was done by slick Willie if i am not mistaken. Not saying that people that are unemployeed are poor not in this day and age anyway. They also gave those that sit on there asses at home having 20 kids a raise( ie. more food stamps and welfare checks ) as well when slick was in office.

[Shasta]

yeha but they also ruined the value of the dollar, taxed the hell out of me and hell now every country in the world nearly disrespects us.

also last time we had a dem in office our countyr had a surplus...gas was only in the .90 range and small stuf flike that.

[Juiced]

For one bro they extended the time frame for unemployment i believe that was done by slick Willie if i am not mistaken. Not saying that people that are unemployeed are poor not in this day and age anyway. They also gave those that sit on there asses at home having 20 kids a raise( ie. more food stamps and welfare checks ) as well when slick was in office.


What good is all this? It holds nobody accountable for there own actions? Ie 20 kids!!

If your really unemployed due to reasons beyond your control great , More power to ya. If not get off your ass and go out and get a JOB!!!!!


In my opinion we help out the ones with 20 children on welfare so they will raise up there children to vote democratic also . Its an on going trend.



BTW , My parents will vote democratic if it were a monkey running for president. Which actually inst a bad write in this election.

[Juiced]

yeha but they also ruined the value of the dollar, taxed the hell out of me and hell now every country in the world nearly disrespects us.

also last time we had a dem in office our countyr had a surplus...gas was only in the .90 range and small stuf flike that.




this is true, Since Nancy took over the house ,gas went up almost 2 dollars. Well lets see Tax the gas companies to hell , We see the fallout at the pumps . Its not rocket science.

[GRIM]

For one bro they extended the time frame for unemployment i believe that was done by slick Willie if i am not mistaken. Not saying that people that are unemployeed are poor not in this day and age anyway. They also gave those that sit on there asses at home having 20 kids a raise( ie. more food stamps and welfare checks ) as well when slick was in office.
That was primarily done for politics after 9/11
yeha but they also ruined the value of the dollar, taxed the hell out of me and hell now every country in the world nearly disrespects us.

also last time we had a dem in office our countyr had a surplus...gas was only in the .90 range and small stuf flike that.
Gas was in the $2 range under Slick Willy I believe ;)

[Buck Wild]

What good is all this? It holds nobody accountable for there own actions? Ie 20 kids!!

If your really unemployed due to reasons beyond your control great , More power to ya. If not get off your ass and go out and get a JOB!!!!!


In my opinion we help out the ones with 20 children on welfare so they will raise up there children to vote democratic also . Its an on going trend.



BTW , My parents will vote democratic if it were a monkey running for president. Which actually inst a bad write in this election.

I could not agree with you more bro. I vote Rep across the board and i am not rich but i also dont have my hand out either.

You can bet your ass that those people with 20 will always vote dem due to they all have there hands out and like you said its a down hill effect they were raised that way and 80% will remain that way. I am not talking race here either cuz whites, blacks, and what ever are the same.

To bad you cant talk some sense into your folks though. I would have like to see Huclabee (sp) in there i think he would have done better than Mcain myself.

[GRIM]

I could not agree with you more bro. I vote Rep across the board and i am not rich but i also dont have my hand out either.

You can bet your ass that those people with 20 will always vote dem due to they all have there hands out and like you said its a down hill effect they were raised that way and 80% will remain that way. I am not talking race here either cuz whites, blacks, and what ever are the same.

To bad you cant talk some sense into your folks though. I would have like to see Huclabee (sp) in there i think he would have done better than Mcain myself.
Not Huck, anything but him! :eek:

He had some very, very nasty skeletons in his closet.

[Buck Wild]

Not Huck, anything but him! :eek:

He had some very, very nasty skeletons in his closet.

Cant be worse than getting a blow job in the White House and f@cking and intern with a cigar

[GRIM]

Cant be worse than getting a blow job in the White House and f@cking and intern with a cigar
Possibly illegally using his influence/power as Governor to get a convicted rapist released to go and rape and kill once being released, destroying all hard drives from his office forcing the new governor to have to purchase all new hardware out of emergency funds and others ;)

A blow job is mild and meaningless compared to Huck's offenses.

[Juiced]

Not Huck, anything but him! :eek:

He had some very, very nasty skeletons in his closet.


Dont we all?

[Juiced]

Cant be worse than getting a blow job in the White House and f@cking and intern with a cigar


No kidding , Its ahrd to tell your kids what all of the media coverage is about.

[Juiced]

Possibly illegally using his influence/power as Governor to get a convicted rapist released to go and rape and kill once being released, destroying all hard drives from his office forcing the new governor to have to purchase all new hardware out of emergency funds and others ;)

A blow job is mild and meaningless compared to Huck's offenses.


It teaches you about his character and integrity.

[GRIM]

It teaches you about his character and integrity.

Ahh that it may, I am not sticking up for Clinton one bit, I hated Clinton. However that is much, much, much less than abusing your power to let a rapist out who then goes and rapes and kills.

It's far less than abusing your power and destroying state owned hard drives at the tax payers expense ;)

[bighunanballs]

ron paul ftw!!!

[GRIM]

ron paul ftw!!!
Another man of intelligence.

[MWM]

Ross Peru was a good wasted vote back when he ran.

its never a wasted vote when you vote with intelect and heart regardless of the outcome. a no vote is the only wasted one.

[GRIM]

its never a wasted vote when you vote with intelect and heart regardless of the outcome. a no vote is the only wasted one.
Great post and total agreement.

[Buck Wild]

its never a wasted vote when you vote with intelect and heart regardless of the outcome. a no vote is the only wasted one.

Well thanks cuz i voted for Ross back then. But i still feel he pulled votes away from the republican party and thats way Clinton got in the White House. I say Ronald Reagan has been the best president that i can remember

[Shasta]

ron paul ftw!!!
BUMP! Im all for him but unfortunatly the united states is too left right. I say go radical for once. The rest of t he world is!

Anyways as far as Clinton getting sucked off in the office, Id take a slut as a president whom is actually getting something done and pushing us forward than someone whom throws us into a depression. Im from the detroit area. I have a job. I am shit broke! Ill tell ya what, jobs around here where you can actually make a living are scarce now. we have the highest unemployment rate I believe (or one of the highest), Should I move? HELL YES! but i can not afford to, and with raise cuts, and inflation it only gets worse, and with the gas prices so high and food prices going up, its like getting kicked in my broken rib after i have been beaten. Ill tell you what. I could never vote for anyone whom agrees with the current policy and current administration right now. Hell no. I wont do it. I would rather vote for hillary than vote for mccain. And i think hillary is a socialist whore!

[Juiced]

TAX TAX TAX, what is this getting us? Its not helping the economy one bit!!!The money should stay in our pockets so we can spend, Which in turn , Stimulates the economy, Creates more need for more product, Jobs stay around And more are made, And so on and so on.

[GRIM]

Problem is they have to stop the big government, both sides are spending way too much, it's not just the dems ;)

[Juiced]

Problem is they have to stop the big government, both sides are spending way too much, it's not just the dems ;)



For Sure.

[Shasta]

Problem is they have to stop the big government, both sides are spending way too much, it's not just the dems ;)
big bump!

[MWM]

What did ya'll think of Sarah Palin's speach tonight?

[GRIM]

What did ya'll think of Sarah Palin's speach tonight?
I didn't hear much, the little I did I thought it sounded whiny in all honesty.

[MWM]

I didn't hear much, the little I did I thought it sounded whiny in all honesty.

really...........i dont put much emphasis on speeches because the purpose is to say what everyone wants to hear anyway. I tend to research history and look at accomplishments. With that said I do believe she is very articulate and intellegent (and good looking). Thought she did a good job and probably won some votes from the opposition.

[GRIM]

really...........i dont put much emphasis on speeches because the purpose is to say what everyone wants to hear anyway. I tend to research history and look at accomplishments. With that said I do believe she is very articulate and intellegent (and good looking). Thought she did a good job and probably won some votes from the opposition.

I only watched a 10 second clip on the news :o

[agentsmith]

BUMP! Im all for him but unfortunatly the united states is too left right. I say go radical for once. The rest of t he world is!

Anyways as far as Clinton getting sucked off in the office, Id take a slut as a president whom is actually getting something done and pushing us forward than someone whom throws us into a depression. Im from the detroit area. I have a job. I am shit broke! Ill tell ya what, jobs around here where you can actually make a living are scarce now. we have the highest unemployment rate I believe (or one of the highest), Should I move? HELL YES! but i can not afford to, and with raise cuts, and inflation it only gets worse, and with the gas prices so high and food prices going up, its like getting kicked in my broken rib after i have been beaten. Ill tell you what. I could never vote for anyone whom agrees with the current policy and current administration right now. Hell no. I wont do it. I would rather vote for hillary than vote for mccain. And i think hillary is a socialist whore!
like I said before Clinton had a repub. congress that worked against him. Its why the economy did so well. He tried everthing to veto tax cuts to the evil corps. which btw never pay taxes you know why? cause they pass that tax onto the goods, products and services they provide. tax the rich? hell no! they take the risk to open more business, create more jobs and make more opportunity for other people to become rich. never punish people for working hard and succeeding. the people who need to be punished are the ones who steal money from entrpenurs and business and give it to people who are smoking crack and drinking 40's on the corner in detroit. Not you shasta but I've been to detroit, very democractic and very poor. no matter what you do you will ALWAYS have poor people. its a fact of life and nowhere in the Constitution does it say that rich people owe you or me a dime. stop blaming others and take charge of your own destiny. Like bodybuilding nobody can give you muscle growth, you gotta work for it:gnight:

[Buck Wild]

like I said before Clinton had a repub. congress that worked against him. Its why the economy did so well. He tried everthing to veto tax cuts to the evil corps. which btw never pay taxes you know why? cause they pass that tax onto the goods, products and services they provide. tax the rich? hell no! they take the risk to open more business, create more jobs and make more opportunity for other people to become rich. never punish people for working hard and succeeding. the people who need to be punished are the ones who steal money from entrpenurs and business and give it to people who are smoking crack and drinking 40's on the corner in detroit. Not you shasta but I've been to detroit, very democractic and very poor. no matter what you do you will ALWAYS have poor people. its a fact of life and nowhere in the Constitution does it say that rich people owe you or me a dime. stop blaming others and take charge of your own destiny. Like bodybuilding nobody can give you muscle growth, you gotta work for it:gnight:

:bump Good post Smitty

[Juiced]

like I said before Clinton had a repub. congress that worked against him. Its why the economy did so well. He tried everthing to veto tax cuts to the evil corps. which btw never pay taxes you know why? cause they pass that tax onto the goods, products and services they provide. tax the rich? hell no! they take the risk to open more business, create more jobs and make more opportunity for other people to become rich. never punish people for working hard and succeeding. the people who need to be punished are the ones who steal money from entrpenurs and business and give it to people who are smoking crack and drinking 40's on the corner in detroit. Not you shasta but I've been to detroit, very democractic and very poor. no matter what you do you will ALWAYS have poor people. its a fact of life and nowhere in the Constitution does it say that rich people owe you or me a dime. stop blaming others and take charge of your own destiny. Like bodybuilding nobody can give you muscle growth, you gotta work for it:gnight:


Bump this answer!!!!

[Shasta]

I agree with you taht its all bulshit about giving money to shlubs that dont give a ****. But like i said its a kick in the groin to us who do. This is why i have a hard time trusting the republican party because you can not honesly tell me that when we had a dem in office sh-t was worse. Also if you look back, the only reason dems got voted into congress was becasue the republicans where doin a shi-ty job and people wanted a change. corect me if I am wrong (and i very well may be) but didnt congress turn democratic in the second term?

[GRIM]

I agree with you taht its all bulshit about giving money to shlubs that dont give a ****. But like i said its a kick in the groin to us who do. This is why i have a hard time trusting the republican party because you can not honesly tell me that when we had a dem in office sh-t was worse. Also if you look back, the only reason dems got voted into congress was becasue the republicans where doin a shi-ty job and people wanted a change. corect me if I am wrong (and i very well may be) but didnt congress turn democratic in the second term?
You are correct, plus in the first term because of 9/11 Bush and fellow republicans for the most part got to do whatever they wanted, any attempt to speak up against them and the people were called 'unpatriotic and Unamerican' Bush's high poll numbers were nothing more than the people throwing their support to their president in a time of 'war' post 9/11. He used and abused this power, that is a huge reason his approval rating is so low now.

Even today the dems do not truly control anything, their slight majority is over ruled at every corner by the Republicans and their president who can simply threaten to veto.

[Shasta]

Hence what bill did to congress when he was in office