Real World Strength

[GRIM]

Was curious myself and I'm sure others want to know as well.
For those who have experience one way or another, what would you say real world strength comparing Prohormones/Legal Prosteroids are versus illegal gear?

I understand there are compounds that are stronger than others, just looking for an estimation.

Are the stronger over the counters even close, or is it like watered down tequila? :D

[Shasta]

you know, honestly its probably like a 3/4 of the way their typed deal.
I am in way encouraging the use of one or another, but like i have stated befor, tehse new supps will probably nnot be legal for long. SDROL some have seen 15 lbs. on stackes, some have seen even 17 or 18. the only downsides to legal supps is lack of info or test subjects and info on long term effects.

[dman69]

what are some good over the counters?

[ironmike]

i like the halodrol-50 from gaspari.they banned that but the compound is still legal for co. to use in there products.starnge i know.they make new ones called halo-d by tri-city chemicials you wont find them on the internet,they are semi underground.the washington post had the compound sent to a lab 2 years ago and came up "unknown".these work very good and they deff have something in them becuase it gave me great strengh gains in a short period of time.i just started my test-dianabol cycle,the d-bol is really starting to kick in.the halo-D is good stuff give it a try.

[GRIM]

How would you rate it to something such as Dbol though?

[agentsmith]

i like the halodrol-50 from gaspari.they banned that but the compound is still legal for co. to use in there products.starnge i know.they make new ones called halo-d by tri-city chemicials you wont find them on the internet,they are semi underground.the washington post had the compound sent to a lab 2 years ago and came up "unknown".these work very good and they deff have something in them becuase it gave me great strengh gains in a short period of time.i just started my test-dianabol cycle,the d-bol is really starting to kick in.the halo-D is good stuff give it a try.Its still a prohormone. Your gonna lose it as fast as you get it. I need to put you on one of Agent's special ass kicker cycles and I guarantee...that you will never go back to pro(whore)mones again!

[agentsmith]

Was curious myself and I'm sure others want to know as well.
For those who have experience one way or another, what would you say real world strength comparing Prohormones/Legal Prosteroids are versus illegal gear?

I understand there are compounds that are stronger than others, just looking for an estimation.

Are the stronger over the counters even close, or is it like watered down tequila? :DSee post #6

[GRIM]

See post #6
Take it you don't think much of them then? :p

[ironmike]

Take it you don't think much of them then? :p

agent smith loves prehormones!!!!boy we had some chats over that one:)

[ironmike]

How would you rate it to something such as Dbol though?

nothing will ever be strong as aas.i cant really tell you becuase i am only on day 4 and its my first time.last night i started to feel strengh gains,i kept adding more weight and it got lighter and lighter,and also gained 3-4 pounds of non water weight.
but smith is right NOTHING beats the real thing.

[GRIM]

nothing will ever be strong as aas.i cant really tell you becuase i am only on day 4 and its my first time.last night i started to feel strengh gains,i kept adding more weight and it got lighter and lighter,and also gained 3-4 pounds of non water weight.
but smith is right NOTHING beats the real thing.
thanks for the input ;)

[agentsmith]

nothing will ever be strong as aas.i cant really tell you becuase i am only on day 4 and its my first time.last night i started to feel strengh gains,i kept adding more weight and it got lighter and lighter,and also gained 3-4 pounds of non water weight.
but smith is right NOTHING beats the real thing.Don't get me wrong here guys, I don't think less of anyone that does prohormones, I've done a few myself(oxyodrol 12, superdrol, and the original Mag 10) what bothers me about P.H's is that in order to skate around the Gov. rules, molecules are moved, tweaked and changed to make the compound comply to regulations. Its quickly moved to market without long term study on side effects ect... A simple molucule change in the periodic chart can turn lead to gold and vice versa. One half of salt is pretty lethal taken alone. see my point here? plus that gains don't seem to last like gear does and I know that those compounds have been around a long time and side effects are well documented. Who knows, if I can't get some more work lined up, I may have to resort to some:eek:

[GRIM]

Great post agent

[Shasta]

Don't get me wrong here guys, I don't think less of anyone that does prohormones, I've done a few myself(oxyodrol 12, superdrol, and the original Mag 10) what bothers me about P.H's is that in order to skate around the Gov. rules, molecules are moved, tweaked and changed to make the compound comply to regulations. Its quickly moved to market without long term study on side effects ect... A simple molucule change in the periodic chart can turn lead to gold and vice versa. One half of salt is pretty lethal taken alone. see my point here? plus that gains don't seem to last like gear does and I know that those compounds have been around a long time and side effects are well documented. Who knows, if I can't get some more work lined up, I may have to resort to some:eek:

This is a solid post Agent smith.

[Wabbitt]

I really let myself go healthwise for a number of years-smoking 3 packs a day(I quit smoking 12 years ago-this brought on much of the weight gain), drinking like a fish, eating garbage, and not exercising. I was starting to look(and feel) like Jabba the Hut. When I turned 36, it was like a slap in the face. I hardly recognized myself in the mirror. I started lifting and working out hard and regular. I dropped a ton of weight, and I started looking and feeling much better. I just couldn't really get the results I was after. I started messing with PH's. I couldn't believe it-I was stronger all of a sudden, I got nice and vascular, and people started noticing. I knew nothing of liver values, etc. Thank God the government stepped up and banned ph's-it was this lame ass move that finally brought me to the dark side.
I will never forget my first shot of test! I could feel a difference the first night. It was very euphoric! My libido was strong again, and I felt so good all over. No PH ever even came close! Thank you Uncle Sam for infringing on my rights! It was a real eye-opener!

[Gator]

I really let myself go healthwise for a number of years-smoking 3 packs a day(I quit smoking 12 years ago-this brought on much of the weight gain), drinking like a fish, eating garbage, and not exercising. I was starting to look(and feel) like Jabba the Hut. When I turned 36, it was like a slap in the face. I hardly recognized myself in the mirror. I started lifting and working out hard and regular. I dropped a ton of weight, and I started looking and feeling much better. I just couldn't really get the results I was after. I started messing with PH's. I couldn't believe it-I was stronger all of a sudden, I got nice and vascular, and people started noticing. I knew nothing of liver values, etc. Thank God the government stepped up and banned ph's-it was this lame ass move that finally brought me to the dark side.
I will never forget my first shot of test! I could feel a difference the first night. It was very euphoric! My libido was strong again, and I felt so good all over. No PH ever even came close! Thank you Uncle Sam for infringing on my rights! It was a real eye-opener!
Thats what lead me to the darkside aslo they cutt me off and banned all the good PH Im also glad they did that comparing the two it really is night in day

[Shasta]

This is true as well. Accept alot of the new PHs that come out now are just future banned steroids.

[GRIM]

Great posts all.

I started this thread mainly to get some info out there as I know lots of newbies to workout out might be wondering this, but are too embarrassed to ask ;)

[Wabbitt]

Haha...when I decided to take the plunge, I though "Oh, well I will just do a good bulk cycle, then do a cutter and I will look like Arnold":baa

Looking at some of the newb questions, I think alot of people still think that way when they decide to venture over.

[Shasta]

big bump wabbs. good thing for me I dont need to do much cutting! But it sure is taking a while to pass 200

[GRIM]

I need to cut the 2 1/2 kegs that cover my lower abs :o

[Shasta]

haha i cant build my lower abs for shet it hink itsfrom my hernia surgery!

[GRIM]

I've just been super over weight before, so now I've got all that extra that just don't go away :o

[Shasta]

grow into it! TRT baby!

[GRIM]

TRT? :o

I continue to try to grow into it, I just doubt i'll ever have a 6 pack

I'm old, I know it ;) hehe

I turn 31 soon, now where to find such a doc? :D

[Shasta]

anti aging clinic?

[GRIM]

If they can stop me from aging that would be gold

[Shasta]

me too My age is PRIME!

[Shasta]

I dont want to lose it!

[agentsmith]

I really let myself go healthwise for a number of years-smoking 3 packs a day(I quit smoking 12 years ago-this brought on much of the weight gain), drinking like a fish, eating garbage, and not exercising. I was starting to look(and feel) like Jabba the Hut. When I turned 36, it was like a slap in the face. I hardly recognized myself in the mirror. I started lifting and working out hard and regular. I dropped a ton of weight, and I started looking and feeling much better. I just couldn't really get the results I was after. I started messing with PH's. I couldn't believe it-I was stronger all of a sudden, I got nice and vascular, and people started noticing. I knew nothing of liver values, etc. Thank God the government stepped up and banned ph's-it was this lame ass move that finally brought me to the dark side.
I will never forget my first shot of test! I could feel a difference the first night. It was very euphoric! My libido was strong again, and I felt so good all over. No PH ever even came close! Thank you Uncle Sam for infringing on my rights! It was a real eye-opener!If you put my name on this post it would be almost identical:cool:

[Wabbitt]

TRT? :o

I continue to try to grow into it, I just doubt i'll ever have a 6 pack

I'm old, I know it ;) hehe

I turn 31 soon, now where to find such a doc? :D

You are still in your prime bro! I quit lifting after high school and never started again until I was 36. I will be 40 this week, and honestly, I never felt better:D

[Wabbitt]

If you put my name on this post it would be almost identical:cool:

So does that mean you finally quit smoking ole boy????:chuck

[GRIM]

If you put my name on this post it would be almost identical:cool:
It's a lot like my story as well :D

[agentsmith]

So does that mean you finally quit smoking ole boy????:chuckI said ALMOST identical:D

[Wabbitt]

I said ALMOST identical:D

Oh well...the new girl has me smoking on occasion too, just not cigarettes:eek:

[Shasta]

hey, what ever helps your appetite eh?

[Wabbitt]

hey, what ever helps your appetite eh?

Yeah, that's it...an appetite stimulant:p Heck I eat too much already

[GRIM]

Heck I eat too much already
Same here :mad:

[ironmike]

my medicial marajuana is part of my trianing and diet plan,it helps with he pian of training.i dont eat junk food when i smoke a bowl,i make protein shakes.:)

[Shasta]

geez man, this SD and havoc has given me quite the vulgar display of strength!

[ironmike]

geez man, this SD and havoc has given me quite the vulgar display of strength!

whats that?;)

[ironmike]

haha good good shasty keep em comming.